{"id":11161,"date":"2021-09-02T12:18:02","date_gmt":"2021-09-02T12:18:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/?p=11161"},"modified":"2023-06-14T13:07:41","modified_gmt":"2023-06-14T13:07:41","slug":"ethernet-kabel-masodik-menet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/ethernet-kabel-masodik-menet\/","title":{"rendered":"Ethernet k\u00e1bel – m\u00e1sodik menet"},"content":{"rendered":"

English language can be selected in upper left corner (British flag).<\/em>\u00a0 A hifista m\u00e1r csak olyan, hogyha felfedez egy-egy \u00faj jelens\u00e9get, akkor azt tov\u00e1bb vizsg\u00e1lja, a tapasztalatokat kielemzi – \u00e9s persze gondolkodik. Ez t\u00f6rt\u00e9nt ethernet k\u00e1bel \u00fcgyben is, ami egy els\u0151re igencsak megh\u00f6kkent\u0151, \u00e1m teljesen logikus \u00e9szrev\u00e9telhez vezetett.<\/span><\/p>\n

A k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 jelk\u00e1belek hat\u00e1ssal vannak a rajtuk \u00e1thalad\u00f3 jelre, f\u00fcggetlen\u00fcl att\u00f3l, hogy az anal\u00f3g, vagy digit\u00e1lis inform\u00e1ci\u00f3. A vezet\u00e9kekben \u00f3hatatlanul megv\u00e1ltozik a jelalak, id\u0151ben eltol\u00f3dnak egym\u00e1st\u00f3l a k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 nagys\u00e1grend\u0171 frekvenci\u00e1k, megv\u00e1ltoznak az energiaszintek. Anal\u00f3g jel\u00e1tvitel eset\u00e9n a hozz\u00e1\u00e9rt\u0151k egyre ink\u00e1bb \u00e9rtik \u00e9s k\u00e9zben tartj\u00e1k az ok-okozati \u00f6sszef\u00fcgg\u00e9seket, digit\u00e1lis jel\u00e1tvitel eset\u00e9n m\u00e9g sok a feh\u00e9r ter\u00fclet, az ethernet-h\u00e1l\u00f3zatokon t\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u0151 digit\u00e1lis hang- \u00e9s k\u00e9pi inform\u00e1ci\u00f3k eset\u00e9n pedig m\u00e9g csak a „r\u00e1csod\u00e1lkoz\u00e1s” korszak\u00e1t \u00e9lj\u00fck.<\/span><\/p>\n

A zenehallgat\u00f3 nem tudja, mit\u0151l, milyen okokb\u00f3l van saj\u00e1t, jellegzetes hangk\u00e9pe az egyeseket \u00e9s null\u00e1kat sz\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00f3 optikai \u00e9s koax vezet\u00e9keknek, ethernet k\u00e1beleknek. A zenehallgat\u00f3 hall, besz\u00e1mol, \u00e9s \u00f6r\u00fcl, ha n\u00e9h\u00e1ny egyszer\u0171, ak\u00e1r ingyenes v\u00e1ltoztat\u00e1s<\/span><\/a> jobb, hallgathat\u00f3bb hangz\u00e1st, vagyis zen\u00e9t eredm\u00e9nyez a rendszer\u00e9ben.<\/span><\/p>\n

Egy kor\u00e1bbi posztban besz\u00e1moltam, milyen eredm\u00e9nyt hozott rendszeremben az ethernet k\u00e1belek cser\u00e9je<\/span><\/a>. Az eredm\u00e9nynek az\u00f3ta is minden zenehallgat\u00e1s, filmn\u00e9z\u00e9s alkalm\u00e1val \u00f6r\u00fcl\u00f6k. Valamint n\u00e9h\u00e1ny f\u00f3rumos hozz\u00e1sz\u00f3l\u00e1s sor\u00e1n le\u00edrtam azon \u00e9szrev\u00e9telemet, ami egy egyszer\u0171 \u00e9s ingyenes „tuningmegold\u00e1st” eredm\u00e9nyezett. N\u00e9mi gondolkod\u00e1s ut\u00e1n a kett\u0151t \u00f6sszeadtam, \u00e9s a v\u00e9geredm\u00e9ny b\u0151ven van annyira fontos, hogy most megosszam veletek.<\/span><\/p>\n

Az ingyenes „tuning” mind\u00f6ssze annyib\u00f3l \u00e1ll, hogy mindazok, akik a h\u00e1l\u00f3zati-lej\u00e1tsz\u00f3jukon \u00e9ppen pendrive-r\u00f3l, vagy ha arra alkalmas a k\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9k, CD-r\u0151l hallgatnak zen\u00e9t, k\u00f6zben h\u00fazz\u00e1k ki az adott k\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9kb\u0151l az ethernet k\u00e1belt.<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ugyanezt tegy\u00e9tek meg akkor is, ha \u00e9ppen nem a h\u00e1l\u00f3zati-lej\u00e1tsz\u00f3r\u00f3l, hanem pl. a vele k\u00f6z\u00f6s rendszerben l\u00e9v\u0151 lemezj\u00e1tsz\u00f3tokr\u00f3l hallgattok zen\u00e9t, de tegy\u00e9tek meg akkor is, ha audio-PC-t haszn\u00e1ltok, \u00e9s annak bels\u0151 wincseszter\u00e9r\u0151l „sz\u00f3lnak” a bitek. Ilyen esetben a PC-b\u0151l is \u00e9s persze az alm\u00e1s g\u00e9pekb\u0151l is h\u00fazz\u00e1tok ki a LAN k\u00e1belt.<\/span><\/p>\n

\"ethernet\"<\/p>\n

Term\u00e9szetesen a null\u00e1k null\u00e1k maradnak, az egyesek pedig egyesek, stb. A probl\u00e9ma oka eg\u00e9szen m\u00e1sban keresend\u0151, m\u00e9gpedig egy olyan okban, amivel az informatika nem foglalkozik, mert az informatikai eszk\u00f6z\u00f6ket nem \u00e9rdekli, nem zavarja.<\/span><\/p>\n

Miel\u0151tt folytatn\u00e1m, le kell \u00edrnom, hogy az ethernet k\u00e1beles blogbejegyz\u00e9s ut\u00e1n volt n\u00e9h\u00e1ny \u00e9rdekes besz\u00e9lget\u00e9sem – telefonon, szem\u00e9lyesen, lev\u00e9lben. Pozit\u00edv \u00e9s negat\u00edv v\u00e9gkicseng\u00e9s\u0171 egyar\u00e1nt. Sajnos, volt olyan besz\u00e9lget\u00e9sem is, ami felid\u00e9zi bennem Fekete Gyula k\u00f6nyv\u00e9nek c\u00edm\u00e9t – Fort\u00e9lyos f\u00e9lelem igazgat.<\/span><\/p>\n

A legfontosabb, leg\u00e9rt\u00e9kesebb besz\u00e9lget\u00e9s egy olyan bar\u00e1tommal volt, aki mindent tud az ethernet h\u00e1l\u00f3zatokr\u00f3l, tiszt\u00e1ban van a hangtechnikai eszk\u00f6z\u00f6k m\u0171k\u00f6d\u00e9s\u00e9vel, \u00e9rti azok „lelki vil\u00e1g\u00e1r”, \u00e9s persze nem utols\u00f3 sorban zenehallgat\u00f3 is.<\/span><\/p>\n

Ez a bar\u00e1tom abszol\u00fat \u00e9rthet\u0151en \u00e9s teljess\u00e9ggel elfogadhat\u00f3an megmagyar\u00e1zta, mi\u00e9rt is olyan pl. ethernet k\u00e1bel \u00fcgyben az informatikusok hozz\u00e1\u00e1ll\u00e1sa, amilyen. Mi\u00e9rt fogadj\u00e1k k\u00e9tked\u00e9ssel mindazt, amir\u0151l a zenehallgat\u00f3k besz\u00e1molnak, mi\u00e9rt tartj\u00e1k azt teljes ostobas\u00e1gnak.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u0150szint\u00e9n mondom (\u00edrom), eme besz\u00e9lget\u00e9s eredm\u00e9nyek\u00e9nt v\u00e9gre meg\u00e9rtem \u0151ket \u00e9s hozz\u00e1\u00e1ll\u00e1sukat. Meg\u00e9rtem, hogy azon probl\u00e9m\u00e1k, melyekr\u0151l a zenehallgat\u00f3 besz\u00e1mol, az informatik\u00e1ban irrelev\u00e1nsak, vagy \u00e9ppen a profi eszk\u00f6z\u00f6k haszn\u00e1lata eleve kiz\u00e1rja a „probl\u00e9m\u00e1k” kialakul\u00e1s\u00e1t.<\/span><\/p>\n

Igen \u00e1m, de a zenehallgat\u00f3 olyan eszk\u00f6z\u00f6k\u00f6n hallgat zen\u00e9t, melyek \u00e9rz\u00e9kenyek azon zavarokra, melyekre az informatikai eszk\u00f6z\u00f6k, a puszt\u00e1n informatikai c\u00e9l\u00fa adathalmaz nem, r\u00e1ad\u00e1sul a zenehallgat\u00f3 alapvet\u0151en \u00f6szv\u00e9r-megold\u00e1sokat haszn\u00e1l. M\u00e1r maga a h\u00e1zi haszn\u00e1latra „\u00f6sszehordott” router is egy vicc, ami ezer sebb\u0151l v\u00e9rzik, de „sz\u00e1mszakilag” m\u0171k\u00f6dik, ami vitathatatlan. Valamint vitathatatlan az is, hogy m\u0171k\u00f6d\u00e9se k\u00f6zben rengeteg olyan zavart gener\u00e1l, amelyeket a hang- \u00e9s videotechnikai k\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9kek sz\u00f3 szerint ut\u00e1lnak, amit rosszabb min\u0151s\u00e9g\u0171 hanggal \u00e9s k\u00e9ppel a tudtunkra is adnak.<\/span><\/p>\n

\"ethernet\"<\/p>\n

Ezen zavarok egy r\u00e9sze mag\u00e1t a digit\u00e1lis inform\u00e1ci\u00f3t \u00e9rintik (id\u0151z\u00edt\u00e9si probl\u00e9m\u00e1k, digit\u00e1lis zaj), m\u00e1sik r\u00e9sze pedig kifejezetten elektromos jelleg\u0171. Maga a netes h\u00e1l\u00f3zat rengeteg elektromos zajt szed \u00f6ssze, amit lehet ugyan cs\u00f6kkenteni optikai jeltov\u00e1bb\u00edt\u00e1ssal, de mihelyst beker\u00fcl a rendszerbe az ethernet k\u00e1bel \u00e9s ezzel az elektromos kapcsolat, m\u00e1ris csak a gond van. Ism\u00e9telten hangs\u00falyozom, a hangtechnikai- \u00e9s videok\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9kek sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra.<\/span><\/p>\n

Ezeken \u00e9s a kor\u00e1bbi tapasztalatokon gondolkodva, zenehallgat\u00e1s k\u00f6zben odahajoltam routeremhez \u00e9s kih\u00faztam bel\u0151le a lak\u00e1s m\u00e1sodik router\u00e9t, valamint a sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pemet a h\u00e1l\u00f3zatra k\u00f6t\u0151 ethernet k\u00e1beleket. Csak a h\u00e1l\u00f3zati-lej\u00e1tsz\u00f3m maradt a h\u00e1l\u00f3zatra k\u00f6tve.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00dajraind\u00edtottam a zen\u00e9t, majd p\u00e1r m\u00e1sodperc m\u00falva magamban mosolyogva b\u00f3lintottam, \u00e9s visszadugtam a LAN k\u00e1beleket. A zen\u00e9t ism\u00e9t elind\u00edtottam, majd ugyanezt „elj\u00e1tszottam” \u00fagyis, hogy az ethernet k\u00e1beleket nem az adott routerb\u0151l h\u00faztam ki, hanem a sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pemb\u0151l \u00e9s az emeleten l\u00e9v\u0151 m\u00e1sodik router\u00fcnkb\u0151l. Ism\u00e9t folytattam a zenehallgat\u00e1st.<\/span><\/p>\n

Az olvas\u00f3k egy r\u00e9sze m\u00e1r biztosan tudja, mit is hallottam, mir\u0151l is sz\u00f3l ez a blogbejegyz\u00e9s.<\/span><\/h3>\n

Igen, ha abb\u00f3l a routerb\u0151l (switchb\u0151l) amelybe be van k\u00f6tve a h\u00e1l\u00f3zati-lej\u00e1tsz\u00f3nk, \u00e9s ebb\u0151l k\u00f6vetkez\u0151en arra elektromosan csatlakozik a hangrendszer\u00fcnk, h\u00e1zimozink kih\u00fazunk minden, nem haszn\u00e1lt h\u00e1l\u00f3zati elemet, vagyis a h\u00e1l\u00f3zat t\u00f6bbi r\u00e9sz\u00e9t (elektromosan) lev\u00e1lasztjuk r\u00f3la, jobb hangot \u00e9s k\u00e9pet kapunk. A hat\u00e1s akkor jelentkezik er\u0151teljesebben, ha a vezet\u00e9keket k\u00f6zvetlen\u00fcl a routerb\u0151l (switchb\u0151l) h\u00fazzuk ki.<\/span><\/p>\n

Az \u00edgy nyerhet\u0151 min\u0151s\u00e9gjavul\u00e1s bizony van akkora, hogy \u00e9rdemes megtenni, azonban, van vele egy kis gond – mint n\u00e1lunk is.<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ha lev\u00e1lasztom az emeleten l\u00e9v\u0151 m\u00e1sodik router\u00fcnket, akkor csal\u00e1dom t\u00f6bbi tagj\u00e1nak megsz\u0171nik a net, ami hajnali h\u00e1romkor nem nagy probl\u00e9ma, de egy\u00e9b id\u0151pontokban nagyon ut\u00e1ln\u00e1nak miatta.<\/span><\/p>\n

Kellett teh\u00e1t egy \u00e1thidal\u00f3 megold\u00e1s, hogy maradjon is meg a net, de a plusz 30 m\u00e9ter vezet\u00e9k a v\u00e9g\u00e9n a m\u00e1sodik routerrel \u00e9s g\u00e9pekkel kev\u00e9sb\u00e9 zavarja a f\u00f6ldszinten l\u00e9v\u0151 zenehallgat\u00e1st (filmn\u00e9z\u00e9st).<\/span><\/p>\n

Mivel az elm\u00e9let szerint pl. a k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 ethernet k\u00e1belek k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 m\u00e9rt\u00e9kben k\u00e9pesek csillap\u00edtani az A-b\u00f3l B-be jut\u00f3 elektromos zajokat, ez\u00e9rt a rendszeremb\u0151l kor\u00e1bban kiker\u00fclt Audioquest vezet\u00e9keket egy-egy adapter seg\u00edts\u00e9g\u00e9vel bek\u00f6t\u00f6ttem a h\u00e1l\u00f3zati-lej\u00e1tsz\u00f3mhoz haszn\u00e1lt router \u00e9s az abba befut\u00f3 vezet\u00e9kek k\u00f6z\u00e9. Ott is maradtak.<\/span><\/p>\n

A t\u00f6rt\u00e9ntek \u00f3ta t\u00f6bbsz\u00f6r is megcsin\u00e1ltam az oda-vissza pr\u00f3b\u00e1t, de nincs mese, vagy ki kell h\u00fazni a zene \/ film szempontj\u00e1b\u00f3l sz\u00fcks\u00e9gtelen ethernet vezet\u00e9keket, vagy azokat jobb min\u0151s\u00e9g\u0171 (nagy zajsz\u0171r\u0151 k\u00e9pess\u00e9g\u0171?) vezet\u00e9kkel kell kieg\u00e9sz\u00edteni, vagy \u00e9ppen teljes eg\u00e9sz\u00e9ben kicser\u00e9lni. <\/span>A legjobb megold\u00e1s a teljes galvanikus lev\u00e1laszt\u00e1s lenne – ha m\u00e1r nem lehet „kih\u00fazni” zenehallgat\u00e1s, filmn\u00e9z\u00e9s idej\u00e9re a h\u00e1l\u00f3zat t\u00f6bbi r\u00e9sz\u00e9t -, de az sem olcs\u00f3.<\/span><\/p>\n

Kellemes \u00e9s eredm\u00e9nyes k\u00e1belh\u00fazkod\u00e1st, k\u00e1beltoldoz\u00e1st \u00e9s persze \u00f6tletel\u00e9st, gondolkod\u00e1st k\u00edv\u00e1nok.<\/span><\/p>\nMegosztom:<\/span>
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