{"id":1434,"date":"2017-01-08T08:20:17","date_gmt":"2017-01-08T08:20:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/?p=1434"},"modified":"2021-02-10T09:00:59","modified_gmt":"2021-02-10T09:00:59","slug":"long-osvenye-avagy-a-tapellatas-zavarai-1-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/long-osvenye-avagy-a-tapellatas-zavarai-1-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Long \u00f6sv\u00e9nye &#8211; avagy a t\u00e1pell\u00e1t\u00e1s zavarai (2)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Az els\u0151 r\u00e9szben \u00e1ttekintett\u00fck, mit is &#8222;sz\u00e1ll\u00edt&#8221; val\u00f3j\u00e1ban az elektromos h\u00e1l\u00f3zat, milyen jelek, energiacsomagok, hull\u00e1mok \u00e9s hull\u00e1mform\u00e1k azok, amelyekkel a 230 V \/ sin 50 Hz-re tervezett audio- \u00e9s video-k\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9keinknek a legjobb tud\u00e1sukat kellene sz\u00e1munkra biztos\u00edtani.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Miel\u0151tt tov\u00e1bbl\u00e9pn\u00e9nk, n\u00e9h\u00e1ny gondolat a J\u00d3 t\u00e1pell\u00e1t\u00e1s k\u00e9t legfontosabb ellen\u00e9rvr\u0151l, melyek a f\u00f3rumokon rendszeresen elhangzanak (le\u00edr\u00f3dnak):<\/span><\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">A szkeptikusok minden besz\u00e9lget\u00e9sben legal\u00e1bb egyszer elmes\u00e9lik &#8222;saj\u00e1t&#8221; t\u00f6rt\u00e9net\u00fcket, ami arr\u00f3l sz\u00f3l, hogy &#8222;k\u00e1belh\u00edv\u0151&#8221; ismer\u0151seiket hogyan vert\u00e9k \u00e1t, val\u00f3j\u00e1ban meg sem t\u00f6rt\u00e9nt k\u00e1belcser\u00e9vel, aminek hat\u00e1sak\u00e9nt azok m\u00e9gis k\u00fcl\u00f6nbs\u00e9get hallottak a k\u00e9tf\u00e9le hangk\u00e9p k\u00f6z\u00f6tt. Ez\u00faton h\u00edvom fel mindenki figyelm\u00e9t, hogy az ilyen jelleg\u0171 k\u00eds\u00e9rlet nem a k\u00e1belek placebo-hat\u00e1s\u00e1t bizony\u00edtja, hanem egy \u0151sr\u00e9gi pszichol\u00f3giai megfigyel\u00e9st, az emberek megfelel\u00e9si k\u00e9nyszer\u00e9nek jelens\u00e9g\u00e9t. Az ilyen &#8222;\u00f6sszehasonl\u00edt\u00f3&#8221; k\u00eds\u00e9rlet pontosan ugyanilyen eredm\u00e9nnyel z\u00e1rul akkor is, ha pl. ugyanazt a poh\u00e1r k\u00f3l\u00e1t k\u00f3stoltatjuk meg k\u00e9tszer, mik\u00f6zben a k\u00eds\u00e9rleti alany azt hiszi, k\u00e9tf\u00e9le italr\u00f3l van sz\u00f3.\u00a0Tal\u00e1n m\u00e9g a szkeptikusok is el\u0151r\u00e9bb jutn\u00e1nak, ha eme mantraszer\u0171en ism\u00e9telt, a t\u00e1pell\u00e1t\u00e1sr\u00f3l, a k\u00fcl\u00f6nf\u00e9le hangtechnikai k\u00e1belekr\u0151l semmif\u00e9le inform\u00e1ci\u00f3val nem rendelkez\u0151 kedvenc &#8222;t\u00f6rt\u00e9net\u00fck&#8221; helyett ink\u00e1bb gondolkodn\u00e1nak, tapasztalatot gy\u0171jten\u00e9nek.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">A m\u00e1sik gyakran ism\u00e9telt &#8222;ellen\u00e9rv&#8221;, amely szerint legal\u00e1bbis Paksig kellene valamilyen jobb k\u00e1belh\u00e1l\u00f3zatot ki\u00e9p\u00edteni, m\u00e1r \u00e9rt\u00e9kesebb felvet\u00e9s, s\u0151t hat\u00e1rozottan logikus. Err\u0151l m\u00e1r lehet, s\u0151t kell besz\u00e9lni! Az elektromos h\u00e1l\u00f3zatra r\u00e1rak\u00f3d\u00f3 zavarjelek k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 frekvenci\u00e1val \u00e9s hull\u00e1mhosszal rendelkeznek. Ezen jelek a k\u00e1belellen\u00e1ll\u00e1s k\u00f6vetkezt\u00e9ben hosszabb-r\u00f6videbb id\u0151n bel\u00fcl \u00f6nmagukt\u00f3l is elhalnak &#8211; azonban, ha nem tesz\u00fcnk ellene semmit, folyamatosan rak\u00f3dnak fel \u00fajabb \u00e9s \u00fajabb zavarjelek. Min\u00e9l alacsonyabb frekvenci\u00e1val (nagyobb hull\u00e1mhosszal) rendelkezik a k\u00e1ros jel, ann\u00e1l tov\u00e1bb jut a vezet\u00e9kben, min\u00e9l nagyobb frekvenci\u00e1val (kisebb hull\u00e1mhosszal), ann\u00e1l hamarabb elhal. A mell\u00e9kelt k\u00e9p, ezt a &#8211; hifista sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra pozit\u00edv &#8211; jelens\u00e9get, szeml\u00e9letesen mutatja. Teh\u00e1t, ahogy az \u00e1br\u00e1n is l\u00e1tsz\u00f3dik, maximum a k\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9keink el\u0151tti kb. 100 m\u00e9tert kellene j\u00f3 min\u0151s\u00e9g\u0171 k\u00e1bellel ell\u00e1tni &#8211; teljesen felesleges \u00e9s \u00e9rtelmetlen lenne Paksig \u00fajrak\u00e1belezni a rendszert.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-1432 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Attenuation-of-higher-frequancies-17-UPDATE.jpg\" alt=\"t\u00e1pell\u00e1t\u00e1s\" width=\"815\" height=\"1044\" srcset=\"https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Attenuation-of-higher-frequancies-17-UPDATE.jpg 815w, https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Attenuation-of-higher-frequancies-17-UPDATE-234x300.jpg 234w, https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Attenuation-of-higher-frequancies-17-UPDATE-768x984.jpg 768w, https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Attenuation-of-higher-frequancies-17-UPDATE-799x1024.jpg 799w, https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Attenuation-of-higher-frequancies-17-UPDATE-156x200.jpg 156w, https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Attenuation-of-higher-frequancies-17-UPDATE-640x820.jpg 640w, https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Attenuation-of-higher-frequancies-17-UPDATE-400x512.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 815px) 100vw, 815px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Az \u00e1br\u00e1n azonban l\u00e1tsz\u00f3dik m\u00e9g egy nagyon fontos inform\u00e1ci\u00f3 is.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Az igaz\u00e1n zavar\u00f3 legmagasabb frekvenci\u00e1k ugyan m\u00e1r n\u00e9h\u00e1ny centim\u00e9teres t\u00e1vols\u00e1gon elhalnak, de ugyanennyi k\u00e1belhossz alatt fel is rak\u00f3dnak a rendszerre. Ez a gyakorlatban azt jelenti, hogy van az elektromos ell\u00e1t\u00e1sban egy olyan szakasz, amire nagyon oda kellene figyelni, a legt\u00f6bbekn\u00e9l m\u00e9gis aff\u00e9le mostohagyereknek sz\u00e1m\u00edt.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Ez a k\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9keken bel\u00fcli AC \u00e9s DC k\u00e1belszakasz, valamint a k\u00fcl\u00f6n\u00e1ll\u00f3 t\u00e1ppal rendelkez\u0151 k\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9kekn\u00e9l a t\u00e1pot \u00e9s az elektronik\u00e1t \u00f6sszek\u00f6t\u0151 vezet\u00e9k &#8211; f\u00fcggetlen\u00fcl att\u00f3l, hogy egyen-, vagy v\u00e1lt\u00f3\u00e1ramot sz\u00e1ll\u00edt.\u00a0S\u0151t, ugyanezen probl\u00e9ma fenn\u00e1ll az akkumul\u00e1toros t\u00e1pl\u00e1l\u00e1sn\u00e1l is! Az akkumul\u00e1tor \u00e9s elektronika k\u00f6z\u00f6tt fut\u00f3 k\u00e1bel ugyan\u00fagy k\u00e9pes mindenf\u00e9le &#8222;szemetet&#8221; \u00f6sszeszedni \u00e9s azt a k\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9kbe &#8222;bejuttatni&#8221;, mint az elektromos h\u00e1l\u00f3zat b\u00e1rmely m\u00e1s r\u00e9sze.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Egy val\u00f3s k\u00eds\u00e9rlet:<\/span><\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Az egyik nagy k\u00e1belgy\u00e1rt\u00f3 meglehet\u0151sen j\u00f3 (\u00e9s sajnos dr\u00e1ga) k\u00e1bel\u00e9b\u0151l k\u00e9sz\u00edtettek 1-t\u0151l 7 m\u00e9terig h\u00e9t k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 hossz\u00fas\u00e1g\u00fa h\u00e1l\u00f3zati-k\u00e1belt. Ezeket vaktesztben \u00f6sszehasonl\u00edtott\u00e1k egy h\u00e9tk\u00f6znapi p\u00e1rsz\u00e1z forintos k\u00e1bellel. Az egyre hosszabb \u00e9s hosszabb k\u00e1beleket egy\u00e9rtelm\u0171en egyre jobbnak tal\u00e1lt\u00e1k a sima vezet\u00e9khez k\u00e9pest. Majd \u00f6sszehasonl\u00edtott\u00e1k az 1 \u00e9s 7 m\u00e9teres min\u0151s\u00e9gi k\u00e1belt. Most j\u00f6n a l\u00e9nyeg! A legr\u00f6videbb \u00e9s a leghosszabb k\u00e1bel k\u00f6z\u00f6tt nagyobb hangz\u00e1sbeli k\u00fcl\u00f6nbs\u00e9g volt (van), mint az 1 m\u00e9teres min\u0151s\u00e9gi k\u00e1bel \u00e9s a h\u00e9tk\u00f6znapi k\u00f6z\u00f6tt &#8211; ez nagyon fontos \u00e9s a fentebb le\u00edrtakkal teljesen \u00f6sszhangban l\u00e9v\u0151 \u00e9szrev\u00e9tel.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">\u00d6sszegezve az eddigieket:<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Az elektromos h\u00e1l\u00f3zat &#8222;v\u00e9ge&#8221; a k\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9keken bel\u00fcl van.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">A k\u00fcl\u00f6nf\u00e9le hossz\u00fas\u00e1g\u00fa r\u00e1di\u00f3hull\u00e1mk\u00e9nt terjed\u0151 zavarjelek sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra mindegy, hogy egy adott k\u00e1bel egyen-, vagy v\u00e1lt\u00f3\u00e1ramot sz\u00e1ll\u00edt, \u00e9s bizonyos frekvenci\u00e1k sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra az is, hogy az k\u00e9sz\u00fcl\u00e9ken k\u00edv\u00fcl, vagy bel\u00fcl van.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Ugyanazon &#8222;min\u0151s\u00e9gi&#8221; h\u00e1l\u00f3zati-k\u00e1belb\u0151l k\u00e9sz\u00edtett hosszabb k\u00e1bel &#8222;hangja&#8221; jobb, mint a r\u00f6videbb\u00e9.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Javasolt legal\u00e1bb 2-3 m\u00e9ter hossz\u00fas\u00e1g\u00fa k\u00e1belben &#8222;gondolkodni&#8221;.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Nincs \u00e9rtelme a min\u0151s\u00e9gi k\u00e1belek hossz\u00e1nak v\u00e9g n\u00e9lk\u00fcli, ak\u00e1r Paksig val\u00f3 n\u00f6vel\u00e9s\u00e9nek.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Sajnos a legjobb &#8222;hangmin\u0151s\u00e9g\u0171&#8221; k\u00e1belek sem mindenhat\u00f3ak. Nem k\u00e9pesek g\u00e1tat szabni a k\u00e9retlen egyen\u00e1ramnak, nem k\u00e9pesek helyre\u00e1ll\u00edtani a frekvenci\u00e1t, a k\u00fcl\u00f6nf\u00e9le jelalak-torzul\u00e1sokat, \u00e9s persze nem k\u00e9pesek korrig\u00e1lni a fesz\u00fclts\u00e9get. Amit v\u00e1rhatunk t\u0151l\u00fck, az a k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 zavarjelek k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 m\u00e9rt\u00e9k\u0171 passz\u00edv sz\u0171r\u00e9se, a &#8222;munkav\u00e9gz\u0151&#8221; elektronos szabadabb \u00e1raml\u00e1sa.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/tag\/tapellatas\/\">Tov\u00e1bbi t\u00e1pell\u00e1t\u00e1s<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<span>Megosztom:<\/span><br><a target=\"_blank\" class=\"facebook\" title=\"\" rel=\"external\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/share.php?u=https:\/\/longkft.hu\/audioblog\/long-osvenye-avagy-a-tapellatas-zavarai-1-2\/&title=Long \u00f6sv\u00e9nye &#8211; avagy a t\u00e1pell\u00e1t\u00e1s zavarai (2)\"><\/a><a target=\"_blank\" class=\"linkedin\" title=\"\" rel=\"external\" 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